I didn’t appreciate the value of sociology until I started reading about modern Russian history. Now I wish I’d studied it more in college.
I started college in June of 1990. I started a little bit early—Northeastern University was on the quarter system, and there was no one to say that I couldn’t. (It was in college that I learned to start asking for forgiveness instead of permission.) I knew I wanted to study history, but for whatever reason, it was easiest for me to take two sociology classes (101 and Environment and Society) that summer. I very much enjoyed those classes, but they weren’t part of the The Plan, and even then I was dogged in my adherence to such things.
The Berlin Wall had fallen just a few months before, and like clockwork, the world was about to pivot attention to the Middle East (or, as I now prefer to think of it, the Middle World). I wasn’t quite eighteen, but I was already ignoring statements about the end of history, or however they phrased it back then. I knew there would be things to keep me busy...I just hadn’t figured on us returning to such a similar point as where I, in some ways, began.
I did take a Russian history class a few quarters later, but it was a lot of Peter the Great, plus Catherine, and thus relatively insulated from contemporary developments. I wonder what a sociology of Russia/The USSR would have looked like in 1991.
Russia, Russia,
Russia...or so said the progressive activists on Twitter in 2017,
annoyed that people were talking about Russia’s interference in the
2016 election. That’s okay, though, because I loathed those people
already, since they had shown how subjective their commitment to
human rights was during the Syrian Civil War. (That, or their
organizations had been bought co-opted by Russian interests—you
decide.)
The Syrian Civil War will get its own volume
when we talk about Assad
or We Burn The Country. Suffice
to say that when I saw Russia starting to play a big, public role, my
breath hitched. That wasn’t going to be good. Obama’s obsession
with the Iranian Nuclear Deal coupled with everyone’s insistence
that we couldn’t repeat Iraq (even though the civil war in Syria
was night and day from Iraq), meant that Russia was able to give full
cover to Assad while he terrorized his own country with, among other
things, chemical weapons and barrel bombs. And, from
the perspective of people who didn’t care,
wouldn’t that have been just too bad except that the United States
and Europe saw a completely predictable influx of refugees...perhaps
you remember what the consequences were?
I considered that Russia’s first shove at the United States to see what it could get away with, but that was wrong. They may arguably have been publicly testing their limits since the 2004 poisoning of then presidential candidate Viktor Yuschenko of Ukraine, and the shocking invasion of Georgia in 2008. (But why leave out what they did to Chechnya in the late 1990s/early 2000s?) I do submit that there was something of a different flavor to all of that, if only because it was done when the US was embroiled in our own presidential cycles, and the rest of the world is lucky we remember they exist at that point. But they were all unbelievable, and more still because who would have thought in 1988 that we would let a newly diminished Russia get away with any of that?
Right—and then remember that time in the 2000s they were righteously indignant because Poland was going to be a site of US missiles? How dare we!
But all of that was just a test. The real action started in 2014, when they not only shoved the world community, but did it with a smirk as they invaded Crimea. But, while the Obama administration was shocked, shocked, we were also assured that this was a bloodless coup, because essentially it mostly affected predominantly Russian speaking regions, and really, who were we to start pointing fingers at anyone over anything? (Yes, that hurt to write as much as you think it would.)
(I’m sorry, did you say “diplomatic agreements”? You mean Ukraine agreeing to give up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security guarantees? But that was in 1994, and things changed—don’t you know anything about realpolitik?)
Even if it was difficult for people to sort through what Russia was up to by 2016, it should have been clear that, of all countries, this was the very last one we would want interfering in our election. But bringing up the possibility of espionage was just not as captivating, ultimately, as...Her Emails. (Note to my fellow Americans: next time, go for the candidate Russia *doesn’t* support.)
I had picked up Revolution 1989 by Victor Sebestyen back in the halcyon days of Obama’s second election campaign, and while I had lived through the years that saw the end of the Soviet Union and the dissolution of their bloc, I hadn’t been following the developments preceding it that closely. It wasn’t until this book that I began to understand how corrupt a totalitarian regime is, and in every way.
Lofty historians point out how draining it is to spend so much money on the military, and that is true; however, while many of us may question the amount of money the United States spends on our military, we are *still* the strongest economy in the world. It’s not just a lot of money spent in dictatorships, it’s money badly spent, as generals and officials frequently take a portion of their own budget through a variety of convoluted means. (Would that that were a totalitarian government’s only sin: they famously spend a lot on their internal surveillance—more on that later.) How inefficient were the Communist Bloc governments? So much so that the only way many of them remained solvent was through loans from Western banks. Without them, those governments would have been insolvent by the 1970s. (Ah, why does it always come back to the banks?)
In fairness, the Soviet Union itself wasn’t as financially stressed, but whatever advantage that gave them was effectively frittered away by the early 1980s, thanks to the ill-advised entry into Afghanistan and the agitations in Poland. It should be noted that the war in Afghanistan was *not* the Soviet Union’s idea; to read Sebestyen’s account, the Communist Party in Afghanistan made the decision, and the Soviet officials were pretty desperate to pull them back as it was apparent how it would turn out. Of course, not desperate enough, because once they went in, they stayed in for years, never mind the extremely high cost to their troops. The Polish, in many ways, can be said to have benefited from the USSR’s preoccupation in Afghanistan, because that is arguably why they didn’t commit more troops to put down the Solidarity movement, or terrorize them into not submitting Karol Wojtyla, later known as Pope John Paul II, to the Catholic Church.
Revolution 1989 gave me the first insights as to the nature of the damage totalitarian regimes can do to people. At the time I thought of it as the guilt of the collaborator, but a decade after reading this, it might be better to say it’s the sublimated shame of the victim. A collaborator wants to succeed, while a victim wants to survive. The caprice of the dictator allows for the facade that the victim has any control over their fate, but in all too many instances, what survivors had was luck. (Is this what the Modern Person is really trying to court?)
It was Masha Gessen’s The Future Is History that showed the long-term consequences of that damage, and it was the first time I appreciated that a country can be sociologically damaged in the same way that a person can be psychologically damaged. Are there other countries that might be suffering from the same phenomenon? Possibly—probably—but few were as thoroughly terrorized as the inhabitants of the Soviet Union for so long.
In the United States, we take it for granted that we have the right to say what we want, however offensive our words might be. And if we don’t always get to exercise that right—the Constitution is going to do only so much for us when we’re outnumbered in a dangerous environment—we *know* when we’re being deprived of it, and we bitterly resent it. Maybe that explains why some of us can be so hyperbolic about our own opinions (or maybe some people could do a better job tempering themselves).
I’m writing this as our freedom to speak and write is under explicit threat. Just this month, a young PhD candidate at a nearby university was kidnapped by ICE off of her street while she was on her way to break her Ramadan fast. Her crime was co-authoring an op-ed criticizing her university for not divesting from Israel—in other words, she didn’t commit a crime of any kind. This is a dangerous time, and people may find themselves curtailing their statements. They shouldn’t, but even if that is the case, that still won’t be as much constant terror as living in the Soviet Union, because there you weren’t even allowed to have *thoughts* people found objectionable.
But how do I know what someone else is thinking? I don’t, of course, but I don’t have to *know*; you have to prove my suspicions are incorrect, and how are you going to do that? There is no right answer—such is the way of a totalitarian state—but there are myriad ways to ensure that you deliver a wrong answer, right down to the look on your face. Are your pupils widening? Are you trying to look away? Is your face twitching just so? Any of that can condemn you to punishment, up to and including torture and death.
I can get you for anything in a totalitarian state, but you just might be able to buy yourself a little bit of luck with a credible demonstration of belief in the prevailing doxa. And on the plus side, most of us are going to have a pretty good idea of what that demonstration—that performance—is supposed to look like. You just need to pretend that you believe whatever it is you’re supposed to for the amount of time that you are being interrogated and observed.
But when aren’t you being watched? The panopticon that Jeremy Bentham so cleverly designed is best tested out in the totalitarian state, and it works. Of course no one can watch anyone else all of the time, but the trick is that you don’t have to. Make it known that you could be watched at any time, and make the consequences of being “caught” dire enough, and you have effectively created a condition that encourages people to police themselves. And the most effective way to do that is to police your own thoughts. If your thoughts don’t betray you, then it’s almost impossible for your actions to step out of line. Congratulations—you (probably) get to live.
Just one thing: who do you become once you make sure you’re thinking what the state wants you to? Answer: the perfect organelle of the state, and one that has the capacity to reproduce the state.
Frantz Fanon in Wretched of the Earth explored the consequences of being a fascist in a revolutionary milieu. Yes, it makes people brutal monsters, but one who still has a mirror and can see what they are doing. More importantly, the face looking back at you resembles the person you used to be. In a totalitarian state, that face is the first thing that needs to go.
What happens to someone who has to live that way, and among other people in the same circumstance? What happens to the place they live in? We are called Homo sapiens because we use our minds constantly, and we don’t like to be told to use them in limited ways. I believe in the capacity of human beings to heal, but when they’ve been terrorized for two or three generations, it’s unrealistic to expect that such healing will happen overnight. It requires space and time. Unfortunately, those resources were in low quantities when the Soviet Empire finally collapsed.
Carl Sagan caught it in his 1996 book The Demon-Haunted World. The totalitarianism and terror had been the lid on a cauldron, and when it was lifted seventy-five years later, that cauldron was seen to have been bubbling a toxic combination of superstition and prejudice. The Soviets needed science and technology desperately, but they would not tolerate science that contradicted their state-sanctioned beliefs, facts be damned. (I submit that it is a characteristic of a totalitarian regime: facts are always subject to approval.) They did not foster an ethos of inquiry but dogma. Suffice to say, that wasn’t an environment conducive to working out maladaptive habits of mind.
It shouldn’t be a surprise that Russia went so retrogressive, so quickly. Gessen’s book outlined the rise of threats to Russian feminists, the LGBTQ community, Jews, and activists in general. It was—is—the classic totalitarian, fascist playbook of values: the state is under constant attack, and the only way it can survive is by the return to the strong, god-fearing nuclear family. Feminists and anyone who isn’t straight push on this because they undermine the concept of the traditional family, Jews undermine the mythology of a unitary Christian state, and activists *are* the attacks on the state.
This is obviously nonsense if you are concerned with facts. The Russian people *are* under attack, but those attacks come from a political leadership aligned with a class of oligarchs that they created with access to fossil-fuel resources. This is to say nothing of the state violence they were frequently subjected to, whether that was car bombs or the murder of journalists. The reason that Russians have a shocking low life expectancy is because the state doesn’t meet their needs, not because people are agitating for human rights.
But when you’ve been living in a civilization as damaged as Russia, it’s difficult to establish that facts should matter in the first place. And that is deadly. Eight years after reading this, I’m still chilled by the description of the murder of a young, gay man by an alleged friend in the 2000s. Evidently, they had had no disagreement, and the victim had no reason to feel unsafe with his attacker. For his part, the murderer did not express any animus toward the victim, other than that he was gay and everyone knew how dangerous gay people were.
That was not an isolated incident, and as state television continued to broadcast messages of hatred toward the LGBTQ community, Jews, and feminists in increasingly hysterical tones—one is reminded of Fahrenheit 451, but that itself reminds us of much of cable news—the danger to those groups increased. When we examine what Russia looks like on the inside, the surprise isn’t that there is so little meaningful Russian opposition, but that there is any at all.
Even if I no longer identify as a liberal or progressive (I seem to value human rights too much), I had for a long time a lingering instinct to pull back from criticisms of Russia or the Soviet Union, because, in my lifetime at least, the majority of the people making those criticisms were people I would never identify with. (And yet, I am nostalgic for them now.) One of the reasons I loved Scott Anderson’s The Quiet Americans was because he described this tension so well. Once you know what the communist totalitarian regimes of Russia, China, North Korea, et al looked like, *of course* you should be anti-communist. (Please, let us save the discussions of whether Leninism/Stalinism was ever truly Marxist/Socialist/Communist for another day.) But, as Anderson put it, claiming to be so was not far removed from being opposed to fluoride. American adherents of communism could be alternatively ruthless and naive, but many anti-communists sounded like crackpots within two minutes of conversation. Contemplating this cognitive divide was one of the reasons Anderson set out to explore the history of the Central Intelligence Agency in the first place.
This book is relevant to a discussion of Russia because the CIA was defined by the Soviet Union. Yes, there was an Office of Strategic Services during World War II, but the CIA was particularly devoted to prosecuting the Cold War. Anderson does not equivocate when he talks about the Soviet Union—as seen through the eyes of early administrators Frank Wisner and Peter Sichel, the Soviets did evil things in Romania and Germany, respectively, in the run up to their victory, and eviler still once they had won. My first two volumes touch on how toxic and genocidal European and American culture is, so if we’re going to credibly censure another polity, they’ve got to hit a high bar. The Soviets did that, and maybe, just maybe, it wasn’t a bad idea to have an organization essentially dedicated to eradicating them.
How horrible was the Soviet Union? Anderson gets at some of Stalin’s depravity. One episode that comes to mind is laughing about the execution of a Jewish henchman Genrikh Yagoda with his replacement, Nikolai Yezhov—whom, you could have guessed, was going to be executed in short order himself. And of course there was the Great Purge between 1936 and 1938 which saw the murders of hundreds of thousands who had increasingly tenuous connections to Trotsky. And that’s a drop in the bucket compared to the estimates of 20-30 million killed during Stalin’s rule, including the Holodomor, and including not only the Soviet Union but also the bloc countries. There are, as noted above, other ways to suffer; when you include those, the numbers are much higher.
Sean McMeekin’s Stalin’s War goes into greater detail about what Stalin was willing to do. I don’t give content warnings generally, but this is an exception. I have rarely been nauseated while reading, but the descriptions of the prisons in Ukraine were horrifying. Please pick up the book because it is a very good read, but if you’re bothered by true gore, you might want to sit this one out.
McMeekin’s title is a reflection of the thesis: Stalin was the only one who endured World War II from beginning to end. Hitler, Tojo, Roosevelt, and Churchill were all either dead or compromised when everything was over. He also marched out with control over more territory than Hitler had dreamed of.
In The Origins of the Second World War, A. J. P. Taylor describes Hitler as an excellent poker player but a lousy chess player. By the end of the war, Stalin played both at a master level: he read Roosevelt and Churchill well enough to know how far he could push them, but with an eye toward the medium-term, if not long-term, he also seeded both the US and British governments with assets who could help him establish the logistical framework needed to achieve his goals.
Please do not think that McMeekin or I are praising Stalin’s brilliance. On the contrary, Stalin needed to be clever about getting at the resources of the American and British empires because he squandered the resources of the Soviet empire, including soldiers, before the dissolution of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Had Stalin utilized his resources better, many more countries could have fallen behind the Iron Curtain.
While some of the gory details aren’t common knowledge, much of what McMeekin discusses is known to history, but more importantly were known at the time. Certainly, they would have been known by Roosevelt and Churchill, and yet Churchill championed Stalin as an ally, and Roosevelt gave the Soviet Union an aid package that was stunning in its generosity. While the arrangement could be categorized, roughly, as American money for Russian soldiers (or casualties), that doesn’t hold completely. The Soviet Union defended against Germany, but did nothing to help American defenses against Japan until the very end. It also can’t be emphasized enough that Germany would not have been in as strong a position were it not for their initial pact with the Soviets.
Pretend that the Soviet Union were perfect allies who kept Americans and Western Europeans safe from harm (suspend your disbelief for a moment). That justifies a generous aid package, but even by those standards, the Soviets still made out extremely well. They not only received billions of dollars from the Lend Lease Act, including state of the art vehicles and war materiel that our own troops could have used, but also almost prefabricated factories which transferred an astonishing amount of technical knowledge. And this is to say nothing of butter and crab meat, which the Soviets themselves fished in American waters. At a certain point, you have to question the judgment of the people Stalin was negotiating with. Better said is that Churchill and Roosevelt shouldn’t have been such easy marks.
McMeekin holds Churchill in greater disdain than Roosevelt, who by comparison comes off as something of a rube. Churchill had been at this longer and should have known better, but then again why would anyone have heightened expectations of an admirer of Mussolini? Access to news and intelligence didn’t deter Churchill’s admiration for Stalin, either, who was willing to bet on Stalin’s “personality” as a counter force to Hitler’s, even before their alliance was broken. While much has been made of Churchill’s foresight and nobility, McMeekin suggests that if Churchill had really wanted to protect Poland, he should have declared was against Germany *and* the Soviet Union after the invasion—but he did not. It seems Churchill understood how badly he’d judged everything by Tehran in 1943, but by then there wasn’t much the British empire was able to do.
If Churchill should have known better, Roosevelt’s concessions to Stalin come off as shocking naivete that betray, perhaps, callousness. It might be one thing to give away American resources to an ally one could only call untrustworthy, but it’s another thing to sign off on war crimes and human rights violations. For as much as some want to blame the terms of the Treaty of Versailles for the advent of World War II, Roosevelt did not agree, and demanded Germany’s unconditional surrender. He also insisted that there was no such thing as a German Resistance and agreed to allow Stalin to shoot 49,000 German soldiers without a trial. But probably the worst of all was essentially donating Poland to the Soviets.
It’s fair to say that the Soviet Union as we knew it from 1945 to 1991 wouldn’t have existed without the US’s initial acquiescence, but that doesn’t mean we didn’t suffer from a case of buyer’s remorse ourselves. What we were willing to tolerate and even abet to stop a “greater evil” we saw as a threat in peacetime. And they were a genuine threat. Again, maybe the CIA as an organization dedicated to stopping the Soviet Communists wasn’t such a bad idea initially. There was just one problem: they didn’t know how.
It
is worth repeating that the problems
were the Soviets and the Iron Curtain countries. It just so happened
that those countries were the scenes of horrific fighting before and
during (and in some cases after) World War II. There were areas that
saw German Nazis come in a wave to the east, followed by the Soviets
pushing west, then once again by the Nazi coming east. (And
in many cases, the Soviets
were by far the most brutal.) By 1946,
the uncompromised good guys in these places were almost
all dead. If anyone was left
to work with the CIA, they had to hold their noses and work with
people who had Nazi bonafides.
In
the early years, the CIA did try to work with resistance movements
when they could find them. Unfortunately, intelligence around these
movements was difficult to find at best. When missions were proposed
based on this intelligence, they immediately aroused the concerns of
field supervisors
because,
in many cases, they seemed
too good to be true. It took a few years—and a handful of
deaths—for the CIA to realize that they were being baited by the
target governments, particularly in Poland.
MI6 agent Kim Philby pops into The Quiet Americans to demonstrate the shocking lack of operational security that plagued the CIA initially (surprisingly relevant in April of 2025). However, while that weakened the CIA, they were already in a compromised position: we had not done what the Soviets did and seeded our people in their governments, period. Given Stalin’s capricious purges, it may not have mattered.
Let’s say Churchill and Roosevelt suffered from a little bit of hero worship. However, Eisenhower doesn’t have that excuse, because eventually Stalin did what all dictators eventually do.
By March of 1953, Stalin was dead, and his successor Nikita Kruschev was the most obvious of the celebrants. Anderson opens a chapter with an anecdote about the first general meeting Kruschev chaired. When someone questioned out loud why no one stopped Stalin, particularly in his later years, Kruschev demanded to know who asked the question. After everyone in the room remained silent, Kruschev grinned. “That is why.” He—and many in his generation—understood exactly what Stalin had cost them, and he wanted to remedy that.
If
I’m spending a lot of time on this particular book, it’s because
Anderson did a fantastic job of underlining how Stalinism’s effects
on the world endured beyond his death. The CIA couldn’t do anything
to the Soviet Union, so it concentrated on where it could get
something done. Whether it was worth doing is the question.
In
fairness, the 1950 civil war in Korea *did* feature not only
Communist actors but also Soviet influence and support. To their
credit, the CIA did in fact warn about the Truman administration
about an upcoming operation. However, that intelligence was ignored,
and thus the United States was caught off guard when the fighting did
break out. I’ll leave it to others to dissect the missteps on all
sides of the Korean War; suffice to say that our failures there were
further inspiration to get something done in other theaters. Thus,
Guatemala, Iran, and of course Vietnam, among others. Shame that most
of them had precious little Communist movements before the United
States interfered with them. But at least people could see that we
were busy!
Kruschev may have been sincere about wanting to improve relations with the United States, but decades of dealing with the machinations of Stalin’s Soviet Union left us suspicious at best, paranoid at worst. While it isn’t fair to blame Stalin entirely for the control J. Edgar Hoover and his FBI were able to exert on American life, it is difficult to imagine that said control would have been as total or remotely justifiable without Stalin. Anderson cheekily invokes the old saying, “Just because I’m paranoid, that doesn’t mean they’re not out to get me” when referring to Stalin; similarly, the same can be said of the United States, but perhaps the emphasis should be reversed. The United States government did have multiple people in positions of power who were more sympathetic to the Soviet Union than they should have been, but those people tended to operate in the open (see Lend Lease Act arrangements above). And if there were “assets” that needed to be rooted out, that didn’t justify the persecutions of homosexuals, civil rights leaders, and anyone else Hoover felt was “subversive”. But when Anti-Communism was a tenet of American religion, all you had to do was invoke the word “communist”, and, like a magic spell, anything was allowed. And just like magic, the rules of logic seldom applied.
The penalties for stepping out of bounds in the United States weren’t as severe as they were in the Soviet Union, but you’d be forgiven for thinking that they could be just as arbitrary and damning. The fear of dissent chilled the sciences in the Soviet Union; here, they stifled or ended the careers of multiple people in the arts. Much as we like to joke about East German films that featured someone sitting in a darkened room with a candle, possibly uttering gibberish, as the safest meta-statement they could get away with under a repressive regime, it’s hard to look at the arts of the United States in the 1950s and not see at least a partial retreat to infantilization and absurdity, and a haven in speculative fiction. Once again, Everything Was Awesome, and you’d better make sure people knew you believed that. Perfect your performance of Happiness, but now throw in a special flavor of Goodness that smelled like motherhood and apple pie. The Medieval met the Modern in the strangest place.
Strategies from a non-existent fourth dimensional chess game is the paradigm we invoke when we see or hear something that doesn’t make sense from an actor that we trust. Merrick Garland didn’t immediately go after Trump for the January 6 insurrection because he had secret information and had to make considerations that the rest of us haven’t thought through. Trump didn’t prosecute Hillary Clinton for her alleged crimes during the 2016 election because he wanted to use her to snare the Pizza Gate operation and ultimately the entire conspiracy reported on by QAnon. Perversely, those explanations made more sense to many than Garland running out the clock on an investigation because he did not, for whatever reason, want to have to prosecute Trump, or than Trump wanting to use misinformation to egg on and build up his supporter base.
Seeing
a 4D chess game requires you to believe what people say, not what
they do. It’s convoluted and comes up all too often in twenty-first
century discourse, but it was invented in the twentieth. It made it
possible for people to live in the world they believed they should,
in spite of events transpiring around them that contradicted the
values they were supposed to live by. Cynical as I am about
Eisenhower, I think he was genuinely caught up in the game
himself.
Hungary in 1956 was legitimately ready and able
to take the United States up on its implied offer of assistance if it
overthrew its government. The protests were enough that Kruschev
believed the game was up...but Eisenhower didn’t. So bereft of
meaningful intelligence for so long, we couldn’t believe our luck,
and then created facts on the ground to justify not acting on it.
(While the United States may be excused for wanting to avoid heavy
combat after World War II at all costs, that excuse wears thin when
the alternative was nuclear weapons.) Kruschev evidently couldn’t
believe his own good fortune at first, but when he finally realized
the United States was, indeed, not going to move, the repression in
Hungary was swift, brutal, and long-lasting. The same may be said for
the consequences in the rest of the world.
It’s not the fault of the Soviet Union/Russia that the United States has taken a totalitarian turn (and it wasn’t their fault in the 1930s and 1940s, either). For all of the influence both empires had in the twentieth century, it was never just us. It might be fairer to say that we were all influenced by similar philosophies. But that is not innocuous: certain strains of thought, if given credibility, can be deadly.
When I finished The Future Is History, I made the impolitic statement to my family that Russians were homophobic, antisemitic, and misogynists. You will be happy to know that my children have *never* let me live that down, and I regret my statement because, of course, no group of people can be defined by the actions of some of its members (regardless of opinion polls). I regret it even more because I was *not* trying to say that too many Russians have been murderously homophobic, antisemitic (and Islamophobic), and misogynistic because of some essential characteristic. A Russian identity is not any more toxic than, say, a Navajo one, and there are as many elements in Russian history to move them away from prejudice as there are to move them toward it.
Sociology does an excellent job of explaining complex social interactions and even cultures, but it is not prophecy. Russia is not mindless, and it was never, even in the early 1990s, a plaything of the Western world. Its leadership and people made choices, even if admittedly they didn’t always have good options. They didn’t have to become fascists and, more importantly, they don’t have to stay that way.
And, I should add, neither do we.